Like many, Sinclair can see the writing on the wall for the end of prosperity and freedom in America.
Clearly, putting one's 34-acre estate up for auction with plans of becoming an expatriate is not a small nor an easy decision.
Full details of the Sinclair Farm/Estate Auction can be found below, and we would like to open this up as an open thread regarding our readers' thoughts both pro and con to the topic of fleeing a growing fascist state formerly known as America.
Has the time come to flee?
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Spectacular 34-acre Connecticut Farm/Estate
Completely self sufficient with standby power, water supply, sports complex, stable, and other well appointed amenities
2 hours via road from New York City
Reserve bid of $US 3.25 million
Interested parties please contact Victoria via email at vluis108@aol.com or phone (860)364-0164
Spectacular 34-acre Connecticut Farm/Estate Completely self sufficient with standby power, water supply, sports complex, stable, and other well appointed amenities 2 hours via road from New York City Reserve bid of $US 3.25 millionInterested parties please contact Victoria via email at vluis108@aol.com or phone (860)364-0164
79 comments:
.....I personally know at least 30 or so families who have left the USA indefinitely.
Can't wait to hear where he decides to move.
...you or I will never know.
Hell, Russia would be better than here under this administration.
Adios MFer's
I wouldn't live that close to NYC anyway. Time to cash out. These new laws are getting crazy. Where to go? Canada? Mexico? 2015-2017? That's not far away either. I am glad I rent. Maybe time to start lightening the load. One door closes and another door opens.
I bet that he will live in Argentina
I bet he goes to Tanzania! ;)
До тех пор, как вы знаете язык и может скрывать свое богатство, то будет очень хорошо в России.
(As long as you know the language and can hide your wealth, you will be just fine in Russia.)
Been there many times. To experience the REAL Russia, you need to get the hell out of Moscow & St Petersburg; get to know some Russians.
...nothing here in Canada. Way too cold and barren...we live in igloos...Canada bad...
SS
What about the pole shift. I bet he is already set up in Argentina. Santa knows how to make a list and check it twice.
i was in smolensk last year, hadn't been back since i was 3.
russia isn't too bad, but it seems a bit odd, the way it's run, the rules & protocols and whatnot.
plus, it seems a bit second-world country feel to it, in terms of technology, infrastructure, etc.
it's definitely liveable, but wouldn't be my first choice.
I can see moving to a more remote part of the U.S. could be wise, but moving to somewhere that you'll be a foreigner when a worldwide crash hits? The grass is always greener on the other side of the hill. I prefer the grass here, where I know the lay of the land, where I can hide in plain site next to the other sheeple, where friends can band together for defense.
Funny. I rent an old 50's bungalow in Vancouver, Canada. The owner could sell it in a heartbeat today for more than $3.25 million. Interesting what you can get for your money in different parts of the world.
Congratulations to Mr Sinclair. No freedom in the US. He should look into Mexico, Chile or Costa Rica. Avoid dollarized economy's like Panama.
Everyone knows te job is f#%@ed in the usa, it may even end up worse than the uk by thw looks of it, his property sounds oerfect but is still too close to the city in the event of a collapse scenario.
He knows whats coming and i think its comng this year. South america imo. Ecaudor is meant to be friendly to immigrants.
so many things to comment on here, but re: @anon-3:17, several people we know who went to ecuador got run out, their property vandalized, etc. they were not welcome living like "wealthy americans." they couldn't sell their properties (which were damaged), etc. remember that in third world countries, what we in the US consider lower class, is more like middle class or more there, and our middle class is considered very wealthy to them and engenders MUCH animosity, envy, and at times hostility, etc.
Good luck to those who leave, am digging in and staying.
You cannot turn on a computer without there is some thing from the great guru Jim Sinclair. The man who's family started Goldman Sachs. The Sinclair family (Seligman) were so far up the Rothschilds backside they couldn't turn around.
It beats me how he's got time to write so much stuff when he's counting his Gold, selling his shares and hanging out with all of his "elite buddies.
Snake-oil salesman par excellance.
In regards to anon 3:31. There are plenty of places in the world that are safer and have more freedoms than in the US. And today, that is not saying very much.
Yes, the time is here to flee. Or to stand up and scream "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" and act.
If I was going to leave the US, I'd want to live in a nation with very little public debt otherwise you are not really escaping the underlying problem. This eliminates Singapore & Switzerland from my list.
You'd also want to avoid a nation which seems to favor Socialism, but can't even martial its efforts to get itself there (which makes it seem more "free" than it will be in 10 years). This eliminates Argentina and Dominican Republic.
You also want to avoid Western vassal states which will get told how to manage their expats in the coming crisis. This eliminates tax-havens islands in the Atlantic.
India, China and Hong Kong have potential, but the people there have less respect for liberty than Americans.
I think one should look hard at Chile, Estonia & Iceland for relocating. They are small and very independent. I'd love to hear other's opinions.
When the first state stands up and says 'hell no' to the federal government, that's when it's time to move (and to that state or any state that joins them). Until then, anyone that causes a scene will be thought of as a terrorist and treated as such. The people need their governors and state employees to make a stand first (since their congressional reps have sold them out). Then you join in to take your country back since most of us can't leave.
@TexPat 3:38 PM
"Good luck to those who leave, am digging in and staying."
My sentiment as well.
@Tex 3:50 PM
A couple of weeks ago. I took my American Flag on a pole and while I was in my "Ron Paul 2012 Revolution" long sleeved Shirt, I went down a fairly busy street here in my town of Aurora, CO while singing...
"We not going to take it, and no, we're not going to take it. We're not going to take it... anymore! We're right yeah, we're free yeah, we'll fight yeah... you'll see!"
I had a very good number of people smiling, honking, and waving at me. :-)
That's just one example of one of the numerous things I have done to as a True Patriot.
Get the message out, and get the vote out!
Another example is I became a Ron Paul delegate at the County, Congressional, and State level.
I also buy PM's of course. You have to be the change you want to see.
Cheers
Mr Sinclair doesn't have time for all that Anon 4:02. He can afford to pick up and go somewhere and enjoy his life. For those of us in the US that can't move, please don't vote for Obama.
I'll take the USA.
What you know is what is best...
I think Sinclair is just giving up that home in the USA, I'm sure he has another one, probably somewhere warmer!
He's too smart to put all his eggs in one basket and move to just one country.
He keeps his options open, you can bet on it.
Estonia? Can you say more? I'm very familiar with Chile and Iceland and I agree. In fact, your reasoning on all the other examples is superb so I'd like to learn about the logic for including Estonia.
I would add New Zealand to the list. The population is small relative to the land mass. It's rich in agricultural production. It's modern and developed, and the population is made up of immigrants. "Small" tends to be more workable when big systems all around fail.
I wouldn't add Australia, by the way. Not enough water. Too much in the US orbit, and many other reasons.
Here in Alberta Canada the provincial political party in power is currently trying to take the power away from parents to determine what their children can and will learn. There was a protest against this change last week and more than 2000 showed up to the legislative building (yours truely included). It was such a rush when 2000+ people started to shout for freedom and liberty. I only hope that my fellow Albertans and Canadian continue that chant in their day to day lives, because I don't want to have to leave the "True, North, Strong, and Free"
Quicksilver
I can't speak for Sinclair but I have begun to think about leaving. As a dual national, US and Canada, C does not appeal to me. taxes too high, medical system questionable, guns are nearly prohibited, but maybe a way station to the next venue
I think Uruquay would be a good choice. Tax friendly, no extradition treaties with US, permanent residency in 12 months, citizenship in 3-5 years. Bob Baumann, the offshore guru had a recent interview with a CPA from Uruguay and what was discussed in that chat was revealing. While the government is somewhat socialist they want to grow th country, knowing that foreign investment is the best way to get growth IMO Uruguay would be one good location. I emailed Doc about transporting phyzz offshore. I found a source called Viamat It appears to be able to ship phyzz but customs has a say in that system.
I would appreciate anyone who would weigh in on how to transport PM from the USSA currency ring fence
@ Flying Wombat Oh New Zealand for sure. There was talk of a free-trade zone there, I'm not sure if that passed their Congress. But an Anglo-Hong Kong would be a stupendously great place for American ex-pats.
As for Estonia, it is a very low tax nation, with low public debt. It consistently pops up on lists of Libertarian nations. From what I understand the Nordic nations are starting to stealing the neutral banking thunder from Switzerland, as the Swiss are starting to cave into US and EU banking demands. Of course, Estonia is part of the EU so that is a strike against it.
I also agree with whoever crossed Canada off their list. That isn't a big improvement (if at all) over the US in my humble opinion.
Another note on Chile. The author of Sovereign Man blog love that nation, and he is an ex-pat. Also, since its in a similar timezone as the US, freelance Internet workers would have an easier time working there and doing contract work with US companies than living in NZ, Europe, Asia or Africa.
Fuck him and everyone else who bails. Renounce your citizenship forever and leave your passport behind when you leave.
SOME PATRIOT HE IS!
Time to stand up Patriots. Not bail.
- runlevel
My family of six (three generations) left four years ago. We were looking for a temperate climate with good water supplies and food production. We felt that good governance trumped taxes in importance and that a well educated citizenry was a must.
Our choice was more of a small region than the country as a whole because we feel local economies are going to be more important than national economies.
Our choice has been perfect for us because we we thought long and hard about what was most important to our family for the long-term future.
@5:10PM Where did you go to? Did you leave the US? Are you glad you did, and wish you left earlier?
No way he is going to Argentina. Its worse than Amerika
Fuckin Sinclair is a pussy. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Go and crawl under some rock in Paraguay with the Bushes. We'll see how long you last. Good riddance.
Whiskey Six: if you follow JIM then you know he's a man of action.. He provides advice and also follows on his own advice.... Thats a stand up gentleman. The states has been ambushed by A certain type of people, those in power at the fed will fleece the states until it hits the ground.. The money shall move to another country.. Follow the money and you know that its the same group of people who were in charge of the french revolution, the russian revolution, the british empire, and now the american empire... Money flows my friend and the states is close to over... Sad to say but this america is not the one i knew growing up.
Good for jim.
You know, I do read a lot of news about how the US is becoming more socialist/fascist... but I personally don't see much of that change in my life. I'm not sure if I'm a frog in a pot, or if the people getting repressed just have a louder megaphone. Perhaps I'm just listening more to the complaints so it seems like things are getting worse quicker than they are.
Frankly,
I think it is pretty chicken s...t of him to leave USA instead of STANDING AND FIGHTING LIKE ALL OF US SHOULD BE DOING !!!
I imagine many Germans cursed those who bailed before the Nazi regime took power too.... as they were being herded to prison camps and gas chambers or watched their family member taken away they probably wished they had bailed with their families too.... and that was 80 years ago. Today the technology to control the masses (or eliminate them) is probably beyond what we can imagine.
I hate to say it but marching and demonstations mean NOTHING to the powers in charge. It's like a homeless guy marching outside your house on the street... close the blinds and he's gone. If people rise up and get violent, all these new executive orders will implement martial law and that's game folks. The system has become so powerful it's insane.
Keep sniveling, "patriots" but just wait...you will be singing a different tune after all of enlightened ones and their tax revenue have left the country. Good luck, Comrade.
reflector said...
Russia isn't too bad, but it seems a bit odd, the way it's run, the rules & protocols and whatnot.
Plus, it seems a bit second-world country feel to it, in terms of technology, infrastructure, etc. It's definitely liveable, but wouldn't be my first choice.
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Remaining right here in the US is my first choice but it is an option should SHTF here.
But yes, Russia can seem like another planet, although living the simple, semi self-sufficient life in a rural area there would not be all that bad.
Knowing the language and having a good understanding of the country's culture helps an expat blend right in comfortably with the locals.
Some people vote with a ballot, some vote with their feet. It seems to me that both can be a good way to cause change for the better.
the country with only 5 million people plenty water will be the new energy producing capital of Europe and still has oil and gas ,we will be voting for independence Next year
Also the home of haggis whiskey golf and some of the worlds best inventions
I agree, You definitely don't want to come to Canada. It sucks up here.
Our healthcare is damn near free. We get way too much for the taxes we pay. There's far too much farm land and wilderness for sale. Our beer is way too strong . You have to get a license to purchase / own a long gun or pistol. When the pole shift happens we'll be an equatorial climate. We don't put flouride in our water. We actually test our pharmacuticals before we release them to the public. Our banking system is one of the most stable on the planet due to heavy regulation. We actually prosecute white collar criminals. Most of the rest of the world loves us. Hypothecation/re-hypothecation is non -existent in Canada. Last but not least is that we live right next door to the place you want to escape from.
Mexico is probably where you want to go. Considering the immigration policy the US has had with Mexico in the past, I’m sure they will be more than happy to welcome all Americans with open arms.
Crazy Canuck
We're good here in the Ottawa Valley. We know it will be tough but it has always been a fight to sustain a respectable lifestyle. We have always been supposedly neglected here but man under an hour to the city if you can work and farmland in abundance to feed yourself.Weaning off the Keynesian economy will be the challenge folks. Lets face it.....learn how to live without the s**t marketers tell you you need and live in abundance without debt.
We're stayin'......with all the pimples on this surface. It will get worse, cripes we just got our fifirst austerity budget and its already sounding lilike Greece here.
Jimmy S. has a perspective of his own just like all of us do. Don't hate him because he made a decision to take care of his own interests. What do you expect him to do, stay and fight for you? Get a grip!! I think he's done quite a bit for every one of us that believes in the value of PMs. Stand on your own 2 feet and live with your own decisions. blaming and hating on other people is getting kinda old don't you think.
I respect the man who walks his own path. Including all of you.
Congratulations Mr Sinclair and thankyou for your decision to impart your knowledge to the rest of us.
See you on the other side
Crazy canuck
Crazy Canuck!!!!! I wish I was so talented to say the same as you. You hit it right on the head.
Someone mentioned haggis/Scotland, and Forvik came to mind. Forvik is a very odd island/movement of a gentleman playing a longshot and trying to make a Scottish island an independent/semi-independent state:
http://www.forvik.com/
(He is accepting people who wish to be a citizen in the unlikely chance his project succeeds.)
ILUVPMS: If that money is blips on a computer, it's all going to zero, so chasing imaginary funny money all over the world isn't going to make him any safer in my opinion. I'm sure he has his PM's stashed away though. When America goes down, the global fiat experiment will be over permanently. I'm sure the TPTB will try to refloat another ponzi/fiat currency, but it aint going to fly. If JS's advice is to run, how many do you think actually have the resources to up and relocate to another country? Sure, if you're a multi-millionaire its easy, but for the rest of us we are going to have to deal with the aftermath. So be it. Telling people to abandon the US is admitting defeat, and I don't follow a quitter.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
"As decline begins, and government becomes oppressive, self-righteous, and ruthless yet incompetent, as official spying flourishes, as corruption sets in hard, and institutions rot, it is time to disengage. Loyalty to a country is a choice, not an obligation. In other times people have loved family, friends, common decency, tribe, regiment, or church instead of country. In an age of national collapse, this is wise."
Fred Reed, expatriate
I have been living in Latin America for two years. Most people from the US will find it hard to live there and make a life, even with money. Those raised catholic will understand things a bit better in my opinion. Not from a religious stand point, but culturally. If you want to live in Latin America, you MUST speak Spanish or you will be isolated and end up hanging around with other expats. Yes, other languages are spoken, but everything ends in Spanish. Period.
These are my thoughts.... I Love Jim Sinclair. so I say this.. once you leave Jim don't come back. Many of us here do not have the finances to just pack up and leave. Those of us who must stay and fight to get our Liberty back are the ones who deserve to take part in the abundance that will come when our Constitution is restored. Those of you who leave us to do the dirty work and do not want to get your hands dirty or risk your life or wealth can just stay where you went. There actually is NO place left in the world. I say stay and fight for what is right like our founders did. Then again having a self sufficient farm only 2 hours from New York city is not very smart either. I'm out in the middle of bumfuck egypt in Colorado. 4 hours away from the closest major city. But I say again... you people who want to expat, have at it but don't expect to be welcome back with open arms.
Don't you people know Jim Sinclair has lived in Singapore for several years? He won't be relocating away from there. He has young children and determined Singapore the best place to locate in order to provide his children the brightest possible future. By now he's likely earned his citizenship in Singapore, so has no need to continue his American citizenship.
Do you mean Jim Rogers and not Jim Sinclair lives in Singapore?
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By the way find Singapore on this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
On the othe rhand, find a *non-OPEC nation* with very little debt (and isn't in Vladimir Putin's pocket) and you are probably looking at a great place to live in the next couple decades.
What a weak American, He made his money here and as soon as we have to put an end to an uprising in evil. The pussy runs and hides for himself. What a self centerd weak american. good ridins. I'll fight to the death for my home. I'll take out every commy lover i can on the way out. When we win. that pussy is not welcome here anymore. And we will win. Posting under my wifes blog.
Yes, Mr. Seligman is connected, doesn't divulge all,
speaks cryptically, and promotes Stratfor and other geo-political war agenda junk. Great front.....not an honest broker (pun).
When guys like him and his ilk are abandoning their posts at the banks and expatriating, you can be certain that
soon the shit will hit. All we can deduce is that those
guys think it will be bad for them.
That could be good for us goyim after the smoke clears.
AGXIIK regarding Uruguay. We just returned from a 9 day research trip there. It is a handsome country, very nice people, fairly modern infrastructure around Montevideo and Punta del Este. It's the only SA country I have visited . It didn't have the right chemistry for us and too long distance to travel from U.S. Only way to find out is make a visit.
My family was a positive force in America for 352 years, we didn't leave on a whim. We left because the country has become ungovernable and self-destructive. We aren't anti-American in any way. We are realists. Just as our immigrant ancestor so long ago, we felt the need to seek another life. After four years I have to say that we made a good decision for us.
The grandchildren are thriving, our daughter and her husband have started a new successful business, and we are in a very positive environment. It's not for everybody and the transition was stressful, but we have put our family in a good place.
Wow, there are a lot of uneducated posters here bashing Sinclair. I don't always agree with him but I can tell you this is a brillant move on his part.
First, since Jim is outspoken and will be targeted for the FEMA camps, will you be coming to his rescue? Sure you will. LOL
Second, Jim is tapping the value of his estate now before CAPITAL CONTROLS are announced in a year or two. Wait to you see the clever capital controls the regime has planned for you. It will make the silver manipulators look like amateurs.
If I were looking for a safe livable place in the US I would strongly consider the north end of the Olympic Penensula. That would be the best place I know of to be out of harm's way and yet in a very good environment for whatever is in store for the US over the coming decades.
jim sinclair is both a good, decent man, and a smart man.
sad to see a few bad apples on this site bashing him for no good reason, other than a misguided sense of patriotism, or perhaps just being envious of his previous success.
jim has always supported free society and free markets, and i'm sure his decision to leave isn't taken lightly, but he sees the writing on the wall.
it's not that jim has abandoned america, it's that america has abandoned him (and abandoned the rest of us that believe in living in a free society).
it's far better to leave this once-great nation than to continue to be a part of it and continue to contribute to it, once one has determined that this nation has inexorably taken the path of warmongering, facism, and evil.
@reflector.
Go and study Jim Sinclair's family and links. All snake-oil salesmen sound honest and descent.
Go and study ALL of his pronouncements carefully.
He is one of the "elite". If Jim Sinclair is getting out then he is like the mass of bankers that are resigning throughout the World.
They are all rats getting off the sinking ship.
They are running before the people wise-up and start bringing them before a court of real justice.
Any thoughts on patriotism vs joining nations that support liberty more?
Those interested in Uruguay. Uruguay is a very closed society. It reminded me of Spain 40-50 years ago, sans Franco. Colonia del Sacramento is a good place to look. Uruguay is perfect for older retired people that don't care about going out much. Very comfortable and safe. Uruguay enjoys the highest food security rating in the world.
I guess he is worried about "Marshall law", as he refered to it. Maybe he was thinking about "Gunsmoke".
all u tough guys calling him a pussy what are you doing to resist this tyranny. I bet every single one of you is paying whatever the irs tells you. I bet not a single one of you has planted a garden, and instead are all eating GMO from Wall Mart. We are all responsible for the state our country is in. How many buy made in usa only? I don't blame him, I'm myself sick and tired of being kicked around with the peasent class. All the average idiot cares about is football and then they blame a guy who bail on this sack of puss. How many of you got Ron Paul bumper stickers? A lot of idiots still believe in Romney to turn things around. LOL. The population we have today resembles nothing of what the founding fathers stood for. How many idiots still want more WAR? Tough guys go ahead and fight it out for the banker interests, I'm looking to get out too. Why? Not enough people with Ron Paul mentality, and too many Tibo, Jordan, JayZ, other hollywood tool worshapers. Don't blame a guy who bails on a bunch of idiots who voted in Illuminist presidents since 1913. Your guns will do zero against a biological attack. USA is too deep in a hole to get out, and has too many ignorant fools who buy everything FOX news tells them.
anon 2:14, don't tell me to
"Go and study Jim Sinclair's family and links"
that's a cop-out
if you're going to make such claims, you should be able to provide evidence and / or links.
I would judge Jim by his actions. They appear to be nothing but decent. He has attempted to help people avoid the sinister tax of inflation. If he want's now to avoid what he believes is a train wreck then people could be glad he is still free enough to think and act so. It appears he has quite a gamble going forward. Everything he has said and done in public life of his choosing has carried certain risks. Best of luck to Jim. No guarantee's for any of us though.
@reflector
If you are too lazy to do your own evaluation then I'm not going to give you "evidence". Why should I waste my time on someone that wants the work done for them That's the whole problem with the system these days: everyone someone else to do the work.
If you think Sinclair is OK that's your take on his words.
He once said that Gold wasn't for the likes of you and me ... the little people. He wants you to buy his shares.
@ reflector
OK reflector I'm relenting. Here is a nice simple site to start your investigation.
Just remember the nicest sounding people are always the best con-men.
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/pandora/outing-jim-sinclair-sinclair-rothschild-goldman-sachs-lehman-bros-connections.
Sorry to hear him say this.
We need folks like him to stay.
But he's a .01%er and will do well wherever he goes.
Most of us don't have that going for us.
I can't leave...and I don't think I want to.
There is no Utopia.
Those of us with family and work here, will just have to dig in.
Anon 1:28 a.m. said..."If I were looking for a safe livable place in the US I would strongly consider the north end of the Olympic Penensula."
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a Winner!
But then again, it always rains here, the weather sucks...please don't come to the west side of Puget Sound.
Anon: March 29, 2012 2:04 AM
I think you nailed it. Make no mistake, Jim Sinclair is connected (multi decades on wall street) and sees the writing on the wall. He probably will be a target post collapse due to his wall street connections and being CEO of a gold mining company. I'm not saying he hasn't paid his dues and earned it, and I can't blame him for the self preservation instinct, but like the rest of the elite, he's getting out while the gettin's good.
I don't get the defeatist attitude of some people. You think your future is etched in stone. Don't buy into it. As they say "the best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry". I think alot of these elite are just being given enough rope to hang themselves. Sure this is going to be extremely tough and ugly, but out of the ashes the Phoenix will be reborn. People like Sheriff Joe Arpaio are doing the right thing...those are the folks that need our support, not the ones that are running.
Jim is in fact taking action. He is voting with his feet just as we would vote with how we spend our money (if we actually lived in a free market which we never had). I'm still here in the USSA and obviously don't have anywhere near the type of wealth Jim has but I also would like to leave the country (residence first and then later consider expatriation). Of course I wish the best of luck to the patriots and freedom lovers who remain and actually understand individual liberty. However, I cannot see staying here as voting and fighting this system by using their rules is only for the misguided. We now vote with DieBold computers which can not only be hacked and rigged but also can no longer be verified or recounted. As Stalin said, "It's Not the People Who Vote that Count; It's the People Who Count the Votes" that mean anything.
Anon March 29, 2012 4:13 PM: You're absolutely right. Can't dispute the vote rigging and whatnot, but when you corner a wild animal (ie: human) what happens? a) he looks for an escape route, and if that is not available, b) he fights for his life. b) is where most of us are at at this point. The Sheep, not there yet, but when hyperinflated to oblivion and hungry, they will rise like a bear from hibernation. We know the elite have their own escape plan and once enacted, they will be too busy trying to save themselves and we'll reboot the system and start over. I guarantee it! ;)
Re: Anonymous 8:55pm. Checked your list. Most of those lower debt to GDP have now been attacked by the powerz and/or are occupied by UN etc.
Estonia is one of the few places left unattacked on that list below 10%.
Olympic peninsula - hahah.
Let's see, spitting distance to one of the largest volcanoes in the US (Mt Rainier). Active earthquake zone. Low end of the Puget sound - have you seen the tsunami calculations for that area? Let alone the rain.
Though it is quite pretty there...
Then out spake brave Horatius,
The Captain of the Gate:
"To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his gods?"
- Macaulay
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